IndianaRunner

[friendorunningwriter]

JACK BRANSFORD CLASSIC
At Kesling Park, LaPorte
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2010

BOYS

Team scores:
1, LaPorte 16
2, Andrean 52
3, Chesterton 95
4, Mishawaka Marian 114
5, John Glenn 129
6, South Central (LaPorte) 173

Top 40 finishers:
1, Mitch Hubner (LP) 16:17
2, Austin Alcorn (LP) 16:54
3, Josh Hojnacki (LP) 16:57
4, Stuart West (LP) 16:58
5, Tony Spalding (Marian) 17:03
6, Morgan Dearing (LP) 17:09
7, Blaine Wolf (And) 17:10
8, Pat Musgrave (And) 17:12
9, Nate Gerick (LP) 17:26
10, Dakota Dubbs (LP) 17:27
11, Jeff Gough (And) 17:31
12, Anthony Didion (LP) 17:32
13, Nick Janiga (And) 17:35
14, Stacy Noland (JG) 17:36
15, Nick DeMass (And) 17:40
16, Austin Palombizio (Chest) 17:46
17, Kevin Hucksted (LP) 17:49
18, Jack Musgrave (And) 18:04
19, Luke Runyan (JG) 18:08
20, Manny Orlich (Chest) 18:10
21, Ryan Cutter (Chest) 18:11
22, Nolan Phalen (So Cent) 18:15
23, Conner Ennis (Chest) 18:23
24, Eric Menn (Ch) 18:28
25, Jonathan Didion (LP) 18:30
26, Eli Owen (LP) 18:43
27, Joe Niepokoy (Chest) 18:48
28, Justin Anderson (And) 18:51
29, Adam Duvall (Marian) 18:52
30, Jared Gaul (LP) 18:57
31, Alex Applegate (And) 18:59
32, Zach Haller (LP) 19:06
33, AJ Raymond (LP) 19:08
34, Kevin Miloshoff (Chest) 19:10
35, Eric Dearing (LP) 19:20
36, Zach Williams (Chest) 19:26
37, Matt Gough (And) 19:27
38, Jacob McNicholas (Chest) 19:30
39, Matt Rozycki (Mar) 19:43
40, Kevin Kenney (Chest) 19:44

GIRLS

Team scores:
1, Chesterton 31
2, Andrean 53
3, LaPorte 66
4, Mishawaka Marian 78
These teams no score: South Central (LaPorte), John Glenn.

Top 40 finishers:
1, Elena Lancioni (LP) 20:40
2, Becca Conley (And) 21:05
3, Melanie Buckmaster (Chest) 21:06
4, Kim St. Pierre (Chest) 21:08
5, Alyssa Gerick (LP) 21:16
6, Gabi Skwarcan (Marian) 21:21
7, Hannah Hoffman (Chest) 21:29
8, Nora Schultz (Chest) 21:31
9, Haley Cushway (Chest) 21:46
10, Brianna Martinez (And) 21:54
11, Lauren Stazinski (And) 21:57
12, Molly Stauffer (Chest) 22:00
13, Jenna Norgaard (Chest) 22:06
14, Linda Graff (Chest) 22:17
15, Katie Haggerty (Chest) 22:28
16, Alyson Janiga (And) 22:36
17, Sara Tordi (Mar) 22:48
18, Katie Zelenika (Chest) 22:54
19, Marina Alvarez (And) 22:57
20, Erin Socha (Chest) 23:21
21, Maggie Pendergast (Mar) 23:44
22, Chloe Owen (LP) 23:46
23, Sarah Bobby (Chest) 23:59
24, Abigail Majewski (Mar) 24:04
25, Sheila Swibes (Chest) 24:17
26, Lyndsey Swanson (LP) 24:23
27, Alina Skwarcan (Mar) 24:28
28, Megan Amling (Chest) 24:44
29, Kristen Cave (LP) 24:46
30, Sam Giordano (Chest) 24:55
31, Courtney Caum (LP) 25:00
32, Nicole Nyers (Mar) 25:05
33, Molly McCoy (Chest) 25:11
34, Alexis Malay (Chest) 25:14
35, April Spenny (Chest) 25:21
36, Jami Ritchea (Chest) 25:24
37, Katherine Alexander (Mar) 25:27
38, Kristen Stapay (Chest) 25:27
39, Alisha Whitlicker (Chest) 25:28
40, Emily Dillon (Mar) 25:29

[runnerspappy]

Unless the Kesling Park course has been changed, those are some fine times turned in by the LP boys squad. Especialy after a Sat. meet. I'm guessing cheesetown rested runners or something. Wish I could have been there, but had to work. Is the course the same general layout as several years ago, and how many times do they cross the camel back in the middle of the park? Any way, super job Slicers!

[DAC]

Unless the Kesling Park course has been changed, those are some fine times turned in by the LP boys squad. Especialy after a Sat. meet. I'm guessing cheesetown rested runners or something. Wish I could have been there, but had to work. Is the course the same general layout as several years ago, and how many times do they cross the camel back in the middle of the park? Any way, super job Slicers!

New course has about 4K of old course but starts at main entry to Kesling Park by practice soccer fields. The hill is not part of the course anymore.

[runrman]

New course has about 4K of old course but starts at main entry to Kesling Park by practice soccer fields. The hill is not part of the course anymore.

Any reason why they eliminated the hill? Now the course is basically a track with grass!

[Prefonbain]

Was chesterton doing a work out?

Chesterton is known to run through most of their early season meets. By that, I mean they rarely spike up for any Tuesday meets.

[chrisgriffin]

A couple of comments on here are kind of suspect, first of all LaPorte's course with out the small hill is faster than it used to be but it is far from being a "track with grass", and Prefonbain, I don't care if they don't "spike up" for Tuesday meets, Chesterton's performance was dreadful. Make all the excuses you want, when their all state runner is 21st (in a somewhat weak field) then they simply did not run very well. I know I will hear from all you people that will tell me it will be different come conf. and sect., but I am not so sure, they're performances at this meet in the past were reserved, but this one yesterday was awful.

[jacksstr]

I agree with you on that one, soemthing seems up.... Laporte def. turned some heads yesterday and Andrean held there own pretty well

[Trembo3578]

I asked the same thing about Carmel's very slow times at their intersquad time trial a few weeks ago and people went nuts. Be careful, people on here might think you are insulting Chesterton. Obviously Chesterton did not race all out (spikes do not make that much of a difference), kids with the tallent of Cutter and some of the other guys should be able to run under 18 with close to no training, so I really doubt it was just a "bad race". Laporte definitely put together a nice pack, and Andrean probably surprised some people as well with 5 runners at 17:40 or faster.

[DAC]

New course has about 4K of old course but starts at main entry to Kesling Park by practice soccer fields. The hill is not part of the course anymore.

Any reason why they eliminated the hill? Now the course is basically a track with grass!

The LaPorte Parks Dept. announced cutbacks / layoffs in the spring. Due to those cutbacks, most of Kesling Park was not going to be mowed including the hill. It basically became a prairie so a new course was necessary. Also, the new start area makes use of bathroom facilities at the softball complex and the public restrooms. For any team who visited before, you appreciate not having to wait for the one toilet for men and one for women in the barn. Dry weather will turn this pancake into a fast course as there are lots of long staightaways.
Also, one more reason we did away with the hill is to back up all the complaints of DAC Tuesday meets. All coaches want to get rid of them, yet many of the DAC courses torture athletes with hills. Since this request has not been met with approvel, the least our conference should do is create courses that do not tax athletes more than necessary.

[Prefonbain]

I figured it was assumed, but when I mention that they do not spike up they also typically have not gone in with a full-racing attitude. They use it as a tempo, and sometimes even less of an effort than that.

Is that what these guys did... I have no idea. But I will remind you how badly I was torched last year for lowering Chesterton in the rankings early-mid season.

Are they possibly out of Top 10 range. Yes. But they are much better than the times they posted here I believe.

On a side note, good point about taking the hill out. I never thought about it, but most of the DAC courses are pretty tough. Sunset Hill (Valpo/Chesterton), Woodland (Portage), Kesling (LaPorte, easier than the previous three, but you did repeat that hill over and over), PNC (Michigan City) and Crown Point (can't think of the Lake it is at). Lake Central rolls a bit, and Merrillville is an exception.

[RegionCrossFan]

On a side note, good point about taking the hill out. I never thought about it, but most of the DAC courses are pretty tough. Sunset Hill (Valpo/Chesterton), Woodland (Portage), Kesling (LaPorte, easier than the previous three, but you did repeat that hill over and over), PNC (Michigan City) and Crown Point (can't think of the Lake it is at). Lake Central rolls a bit, and Merrillville is an exception.

Just FYI, their home course is on their campus now....behind their school. It has a mini ravine in the back ala New Prairie. It's actually kind of cool...

[WarriorXC09]

Cutter straight up jogged this race, it looks slower than a tempo would be, don't fool urselves chesterton will be one of the best teams this season, and this shuldnt knock them back at all

[runnerspappy]

not trying to cause a big debate, but is it right for a very good class program/team like chesterton to even participate in this meet if they are not going to even try? they are telling laporte and all the other teams that were there that yea, we accept the invitation to run in your bransford invite. if you're not going to do anything but "train" through this meet, than just stay home. in my opinion, lp should line up a different team for the bransford. i feel it shows disrespect not only to lp but all the teams represented. and thats all i have to say about that.

[VelvetJones]

The performance by LaPorte was pretty good considering the height of the grass out there. Chesterton certainly didn't take this race serious. Guys were wearing trainers and they had a very non-focused demeanor both pre-race and during.

[Trembo3578]

not trying to cause a big debate, but is it right for a very good class program/team like chesterton to even participate in this meet if they are not going to even try? they are telling laporte and all the other teams that were there that yea, we accept the invitation to run in your bransford invite. if you're not going to do anything but "train" through this meet, than just stay home. in my opinion, lp should line up a different team for the bransford. i feel it shows disrespect not only to lp but all the teams represented. and thats all i have to say about that.

I see how it can seem disrespectful, but it is possible that some guys were there to race. I am not sure if Chesterton did this, but it is possible that they only "rested" their top few guys. Chesterton(or any other team in their position) could have gone to the race to allow their rookies to get the feel of a cross country race against other teams. The better guys could have just paced the slower guys through for support or something.

[oldben]

not trying to cause a big debate, but is it right for a very good class program/team like chesterton to even participate in this meet if they are not going to even try? they are telling laporte and all the other teams that were there that yea, we accept the invitation to run in your bransford invite. if you're not going to do anything but "train" through this meet, than just stay home. in my opinion, lp should line up a different team for the bransford. i feel it shows disrespect not only to lp but all the teams represented. and thats all i have to say about that.

I promised myself that I wouldn't post on here this year but I'm going to say this and then shut up. First, unless you've talked to one of the coach's (you haven't) you probably don't have a clue as to what was going on with Chesterton. Second, prior to this year nobody cared a bit about what Chesterton did at this meet. I assure you that they've never NEVER run fast times at this meet, and that frequently some of the runners haven't run. The La Porte coach knows this and I assume his team knows this. In my opinion the only people in a position to comment on whether this constitutes disrespect are the coach and the team. I'm pretty sure neither the coach nor the team feels this way. Also, I can also assure you that the Chesterton coach and team have the utmost respect for La Porte. It's the first meet of the year for Chesterton and their training is geared for races that are still two months away. As far as training through Bransford-EVERY team trained through Bransford. As I assume most teams are "training through" any meet at this time of the season. That certainly doesn't equate to "not trying." Chesterton is primarily inexperienced and very young. They have only three athletes with any tournament experience (one for them was injured for half the season last year).

Anyway, there's no way for most people to know what's going on within any of the teams throughout the season. Much of the talk on IR reflects this lack of knowledge. If anyone really wants to know what Chesterton or any other team is up to, why not actually ask someone who may know rather than spew opinions you pretend are facts? ("it right for a very good class program/team like chesterton to even participate in this meet if they are not going to even try") That's all I have to say about that!