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[runner1727]

Here are the top 10 teams from the state meet yesterday. Listed is their top 5 returners based on results I could find. Any addtions or corrections are welcome. I will hopefully have more teams in the next few days. Also, feel free to list any other team's top 5 returners.
()=2010-2011 school year grade
Columbus North
1. Gabe Ocasio (12) 15:40
2. Andrew Diehn (11) 15:46
3. Christopher Kelsey (11) 15:55
4. Andrew Beiriger (12) 16:00
5. Michael Sublette (11) 16:25
Chesterton
1. Ryan Cutter (12) 15:41
2. Andrew Morris (12) 16:20
3. Thomas Halpin (12) 16:27
4. Manny Orlich (12) 16:44
5. Tyler Rusboldt (11) 16:59
North Central
1. Futsum Zeinasellassie (11) 15:11
2. Filimon Adhanom (12) 15:49
3. Matthew Fox (11) 16:20
4. Jared Burris (12) 16:58
5. Corey Turner (10) 17:10
Carmel
1. Chris Walden (12) 15:17
2. Patrick Appleton (10) 16:13
3. Collin Brunk (12) 16:26
4. Zach Rutherford (12) 16:32
5. Daniel Williams (10) 16:38
North Harrison
1. Ryan Foster (11) 16:02
2. Jonathan Reynolds (10) 16:13
3. Johnnie Guy (11) 16:19
4. Josh Guy (11) 17:08
5. Kyle Chesser (11) 18:39
Noblesville
1. Ryan Ferguson (12) 15:49
2. Collin Ginebaugh (12) 15:49
3. Christian Bowers (12) 16:09
4. Sam Roudebush (11) 16:11
5. Russ Goodwin (12) 16:45
Zionsville
1. Sam Berger (11) 16:10
2. Graham Bixler (11) 16:11
3. Ian Boggs (12) 16:31
4. Ryan Kelly (12) 16:57
5. Eric Petit (12) 17:13
Hamilton Southeastern
1. Will Wartenberg (12) 16:16
2. Troy Reeder (10) 16:20
3. Sawyer Hitchcock (11) 16:21
4. Kyle Knight (11) 16:28
5. Jack Andritch (11) 16:51
Huntington North
1. Sam Doughty (12) 16:11
2. Jake Crosley (12) 16:35
3. Kaylan Newcomb (12) 16:52
4. Sean Lewis (12) 16:54
5. Darius Vogleman (11) 17:01
Terre Haute North
1. John Mascari (12) 15:30
2. Milton Brinza (12) 16:00
3. Brian Depasse (12) 16:24
4. Tyeson Mundy (11) 16:36
5. Dylan Bertsch (12) 16:46

[badmojo]

Good job. It might be better to take the average time for each runner this year to discount the track comparisons.

Looks like CN, Carmel, Noblesville, and HSE will all be strong again.

[fastrack1021]

Out of those teams above, my top 5 there for next year are

CN
Noblesville
North Central
Carmel
Terre Haute North

[Harbinger]

The cheeseheads will be back. They will get no press again, but they will be back.

[beachrunner369]

If not even better for CN because if you looked closely Tim Hofmister was in the program for state. And if you follow track Tim got 12th in the mile at state so they can be just as dangerous if he can stay healthy.

Top ten times for CN next year line-up

1.Ocasio- 15:40
2.Diehn- 15:46
3.Kelsey-15:55
4.Beiriger-16:00
5.Sublettle-16:24
6.Baldwin-16:55
7.Powell-16:57
8.Hofmister-unknown but ran in Sec,Reg,semi
9.Burton-17:28
10.Beiriger-17:29

[logic_cat]

I'm sure that CN will use the exact same program next summer as they used this past summer. The program really improved the runners times from one year to the next. They already have 5 really solid guys that you can assume will be about the same if not slightly better next year if no one gets hurt or sick. And then there is the JV runners that will run the program this summer that will get a lot faster also. CN is going to be the heavy favorite going into next season, and will probably win state just based on how well everyone on there team peaked this year. I'm going to give bill belichick a call and get his best men to find out exactly what CN does during the summer.

[drew]

I'm sure that CN will use the exact same program next summer as they used this past summer. The program really improved the runners times from one year to the next. They already have 5 really solid guys that you can assume will be about the same if not slightly better next year if no one gets hurt or sick. And then there is the JV runners that will run the program this summer that will get a lot faster also. CN is going to be the heavy favorite going into next season, and will probably win state just based on how well everyone on there team peaked this year. I'm going to give bill belichick a call and get his best men to find out exactly what CN does during the summer.

Seems to work. I think they rival Carmel as the powers of distance running in Indiana over the last 10 years. For them to lose next year someone's going to need to get a BIG chip on there shoulder and put some miles in... and maybe not even then.

[Gonebabylong]

I'm going to give bill belichick a call and get his best men to find out exactly what CN does during the summer.

It's really funny you say that, because us Columbus East runners see North runners every single day during summer training. Should been watching them more closely, so I could expose their secret?

[CoachG]

I know based on these times this is not top 10 worthy material, but our guys are faster than this and will be better next year. Neal and Noah were around the low 17's before this meet, and Alex was not that far behind.

Perry Central:
219 Scheiber,Eric (12) 17:15
213 Bashor,Ian (12) 17:55
222 Schwartz,Neal (12) 18:23
218 Newton,Alex (10) 18:23
216 Gatwood,Noah (12) 19:20

"Do or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

[drew]

I'm going to give bill belichick a call and get his best men to find out exactly what CN does during the summer.

It's really funny you say that, because us Columbus East runners see North runners every single day during summer training. Should been watching them more closely, so I could expose their secret?

I remember back in the mid 90's when East was the team to beat. Maybe 2010 will bring the return of the East. That use to be an interesting sectional there at Jennings Co.

[lifesgood]

1. Noblesville
2. Columbus North
3. Carmel
4. North Central
5. HSE

[shsxc123]

FW Snider's Top 5 Returning in 2010-2011:

1. Mitch Dutton 16:13
2. Bisrat Desta 16:38
3. Blake Jones 16:49
4. Peter Haydock 16:58
5. Adam Williams 17:15

[Gump11]

Vincennes Rivet is going to pretty decent next year and yes that is a bias opinion

1)Nathan Westfall (will be 12): Pr 16:16
2)Colin Vieke (will be 10): Pr 17:07
3)Gerard Wise (will be 12) Pr 18:00
4)Trevor Cummins (will be 11): Pr 18:45
5)Jacob Lehman (will be 11): Pr 21:20 and was injured all season

so if they improve there 4-6 just a little they could be solid! at least in their regional and possibly semi state

[southside800]

terre haute south will be solid next year.not nearly as good as north but should make it to state
Taylor Head (will be 12) - 1602 (all mic runner)
Matt collier (will be 12) - 1707 runs amazing at practices i think he puts it together at meets next year
Dale Young (will be 12) - 1733 has dropped at least 45 sec a year since startin xc his fresh year
Jessie Bender (will be 12) - 1740 ran with broken vertebrae in his back and other back problems for last 3 years. i'll be healthy for first time in high school.im lookin to drop big time.
Kyle mullins (will be 10 ) - 1742 had some bronchitis and asthma issues..hopefully wont hurt him much nxt year
Dalton Verseman ( wil be 12) - 18 13 ran huge pr at mic open race to put him on varsity.needs more consitency throughout the year
Devon Fuson (will be 10) - 1819 ran solid freshmen year

should be a solid team led with plenty of seniors.need to be a little more solid after front running of head

[scout]

I know Cathedral loses their top two but they return a good pack of guys who could improve.

Kelly 16:28
Bond 16:50
Parshall 16:51
Walls 17:05
Proffitt 17:08
Stempky 17:10
Crist 17:30

I'm not positive but from what I hear running in a pick pack is really good for a team.

[Megatron]

Top returners from this years state meet.

1.Futsum Zeinasellassie-North Central
2.Chris Walden-Carmel
3.Andrew Diehn-Columbus North
4.James Martin-Fort Wayne Carrol
5.Jace Lowry-Martinsville
6.Bradley Hess-Fort Wayne Carrol
7.Josh Genet-Northeast Dubois
8.Jason Crist-Franklin Central
9.Christopher Kelsey-Columbus North
10.John Mascari-Teere Haute North
11.Gabe Ocasio-Columbus North
12.Kent Garrett-Guerin Catholic
13.Filimon Adhanom-North Central
14.Andrew Beiriger-Columbus North
15.Ryan Foster-North Harrison

I scored the state meet and i took out all the seniors and individuals and this is what it looked like.

Columbus north- 3 9 11 13 76..........112
North Central- 1 12 44 57 69.........183
Noblesville- 17 18 26 38 96............195
LaPorte- 16 24 51 64 68 (95).............223
Hamilton Southeastern- 28 30 36 53 77.........224
Terre Haute North- 10 34 42 50 91........227
North Harrison- 14 20 25 74 103.........236
Martinsville- 5 27 66 83 101.........282
Valparaiso- 40 41 56 61 90 (94)..........288
South Bend Saint Joseph's- 43 48 72 75 78..........316
Bloomington South- 32 59 73 82 99..........345
West Lafayette- 47 65 84 87 88.........371


chesterton- 19 21 55 79 ?
Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger- 31 35 46 63 ?
Fort Wayne Snider- 29 37 45 89 ?
Huntington North- 60 70 71 92 ?
Pendleton Heights- 49 62 98 102 ?
Perry Central- 58 85 86 100 ?
Zionsville- 15 39 54 ? ?
Concord- 22 52 81 ? ?
Fort Wayne Carrol- 4 6 ? ? ?
Carmel- 2 33 ? ? ?
New Albany- 93 97 ? ? ?
Northeast Dubois-7 ? ? ? ?
Franklin Central- 8 ? ? ? ?
Perry Central- 23 ? ? ? ?
Culver Academies- 67 ? ? ? ?
Lake Central- 80 ? ? ? ?

[Colin]

It isn't rare for athletes to be listed under the wrong grades in the tournament. I'm pretty sure that Marowski of Noblesville was listed as a senior but is actually a junior. I was under the impression that the Millers return their top five. Can anyone back me up or refute this?

[aicelef]

Nope, I know Cody and he is a senior. Watch for him to be making some noise this spring!

Also, I can't believe there is already a thread about next year. It is a year away! Who knows which guys will sit around and play video games and which guys will go out and put in the work.

On October 12, Chesterton was ranked #6. They finished second. Nineteen days before the state meet, predictions made by people with much more knowledge in this area than most of us were way off. Any predictions made a year in advance are just a shot in the dark.

Columbus North was 16th a year ago, and won this year with 63 points. A year from now, some kid is going to step up big in the state meet and snag a medal. A 2-5 pack is going to come up big behind a top-10 frontrunner and get their team on the podium. Someone is going to have the race of their life and finish second to Futsum. Four kids are going to win semistate. Out of the above things, the only things I feel safe predicting is that Futsum Zeinasellassie and James Martin will be two of the four semistate champions. Other than that, it is impossible to predict who is going to step up on that specific day.

[chrisgriffin]

lifesgood, I thought this was a 2010 State Meet thread, looks like you are predicting the Franklin Central Semi State. Why don't you pull your head out of your central indiana ass and recognize that there are runners in other parts of the state. As someone stated above, even without David Osborn, Chesterton the 2ND PLACE TEAM IN THE STATE OF INDIANA (ahead of all the FC Semi teams that were supposed to beat them) will be very strong again. I very much enjoy reading and following Indiana CC on this website but the central Indiana bias is almost too much to take. Oh, and here are my predictions for next year
1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

[XCspectator]

One side of me agrees that there is too much Central Indiana bias on IR.
The other side of me says "Don't get mad, get even"

If more enthusiasts from outside of Indy posted then the bias would be equal or not noticed.

But it is irritating at times

[no_excuses]

1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

Fail.

[Mr_Mile]

1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

Fail.

Possibly the worst predictions I've ever seen. There's a reason for the so called bias. The teams from the FC semi state went 1,3,4,6,7,8. The teams that come out of that semi state are better. Period.

[HCxc15]

lifesgood, I thought this was a 2010 State Meet thread, looks like you are predicting the Franklin Central Semi State. Why don't you pull your head out of your central indiana ass and recognize that there are runners in other parts of the state. As someone stated above, even without David Osborn, Chesterton the 2ND PLACE TEAM IN THE STATE OF INDIANA (ahead of all the FC Semi teams that were supposed to beat them) will be very strong again. I very much enjoy reading and following Indiana CC on this website but the central Indiana bias is almost too much to take. Oh, and here are my predictions for next year
1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

Lifesgood's predictions aren't so far-fetched. Central Indiana is dominant. There may be some bias, but 6 in the top 8 speaks loudly as to why people give Central Indiana the attention. Chesterton and Laporte and THN definitely could get on that podium as well as some others I'm sure, but it isn't that unlikely for 5 FCSS teams to be picked, especially a year early.

[WarriorXC09]

1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

Fail.

Possibly the worst predictions I've ever seen. There's a reason for the so called bias. The teams from the FC semi state went 1,3,4,6,7,8. The teams that come out of that semi state are better. Period.

There are plenty of good runners and teams in spots other than central Indiana. However, the results and times do not lie...there are more in Central Indiana, and if you are too focused on other parts of the state to realize that then too bad.
I guess I will continue the so-called "Central Indiana Bias" and say that a team that will come up big time next year will be Hamilton Southeastern. If no one gets hurt I'd call them a podium team for sure. You call everyone biased toward Central Indiana chrisgriffin...just take a look at your own predictions. Looks like you're predicting some northern state meet that will take place including only teams north of Kokomo.

[CountryBumpkin91]

1. Chesterton
2. LaPorte
3. Concord
4. Valpo
5. New Prairie

There are plenty of good runners and teams in spots other than central Indiana. However, the results and times do not lie...there are more in Central Indiana, and if you are too focused on other parts of the state to realize that then too bad.
I guess I will continue the so-called "Central Indiana Bias" and say that a team that will come up big time next year will be Hamilton Southeastern. If no one gets hurt I'd call them a podium team for sure. You call everyone biased toward Central Indiana chrisgriffin...just take a look at your own predictions. Looks like you're predicting some northern state meet that will take place including only teams north of Kokomo.

[/quote]

hahahahaha good find warrior, even though you did not pick up on the fact that chrisgriffin was merely mocking other people. i honestly don't think those are chrisgriffin's real predictions.