IndianaRunner

[Mr_Mile]

Anyone have info on this race? A former teammate is running in it and I just wanted to check out how he did.

[TheChasePack]

http://www.onlineraceresults.com/race/view_plain_text.php?race_id=12922

I can't find individual results but according to Kyle Johnson's Twitter (http://twitter.com/KJatIU) Poore got 4th and Mayhew got 11th. So Poore earned himself an auto-bid so good luck to him next Monday! After the 6K it also said that Bayer was in 7th so I don't know what happened to him. Overall not a good showing for the Hoosiers...

Also disappointed in how Butler ran. from looking at the results, Andy Baker will have to rely on a at-large bid to get in (assuming he was the Bulldog in 7th). He will most likely get it though from how he has torn it up all season. I don't think either ISU or OSU (and if OSU does have enough, I think it will be to late in the at-large process for Butler to have a chance) will have enough points to go to nationals so Butler is on the outside looking in right now.

Indiana State on the other hand really showed up today. They were 8th in the Region poll and ended up 4th. They were also swept by Indiana earlier in the year at Intercollegiate's and to come back to beat them handily is pretty huge.

Notre Dame finished about where they were expected to and I think Purdue ran well to get 15th with somebody running a great race to get 10th. I don't know enough about IUPUI, Evansville, or IPFW to comment on their races.

Edit: Looks like Roeder ran an excellent race for Butler. That probably leaves Baker out of the NCAA's as I doubt this region will get two individual at-large bids, from the same team none the less.

[TheChasePack]

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/ncaacross/pages/09mxc-greatlakes.htm

Andy Williams qualified as an Individual and Manchester is waiting to find out if they will go. I'm (embarrassingly) not 100% sure on how the DIII selection committee works but I would vote Manchester into nationals if I was them! I would have like to see them run a little better though now that it was their third time at Terre Haute this year. They were much closer to Heidelberg earlier in the season at Pre-Regionals and on a good day they could have pulled off the Auto-bid.

[xccolonel]

Manchester ran well and will get into Nationals as a team. It awesome to have an Indiana team do well, the HCAC is usually not very competetive in the region. It was a pretty slow day for some reason at LaVerne Gibson today for some reason. We had a meet here two weeks ago and it ran faster in worse conditions.

[fi-town]

http://www.onlineraceresults.com/race/view_plain_text.php?race_id=12922

I can't find individual results but according to Kyle Johnson's Twitter (http://twitter.com/KJatIU) Poore got 4th and Mayhew got 11th. So Poore earned himself an auto-bid so good luck to him next Monday! After the 6K it also said that Bayer was in 7th so I don't know what happened to him. Overall not a good showing for the Hoosiers...

Also disappointed in how Butler ran. from looking at the results, Andy Baker will have to rely on a at-large bid to get in (assuming he was the Bulldog in 7th). He will most likely get it though from how he has torn it up all season. I don't think either ISU or OSU (and if OSU does have enough, I think it will be to late in the at-large process for Butler to have a chance) will have enough points to go to nationals so Butler is on the outside looking in right now.

Indiana State on the other hand really showed up today. They were 8th in the Region poll and ended up 4th. They were also swept by Indiana earlier in the year at Intercollegiate's and to come back to beat them handily is pretty huge.

Notre Dame finished about where they were expected to and I think Purdue ran well to get 15th with somebody running a great race to get 10th. I don't know enough about IUPUI, Evansville, or IPFW to comment on their races.

Edit: Looks like Roeder ran an excellent race for Butler. That probably leaves Baker out of the NCAA's as I doubt this region will get two individual at-large bids, from the same team none the less.

That wasn't Andy Baker that was Madison Roeder (Hamilton Southeastern) that finished 7th- HUGE run for the guy!

[Johnnyrunner]

Sending out a congrats to Max Goldak, Chesterton Alum from coming back from knee surgery and running well today and having his Spartins qualify for the first time since he has been there. Way to go Max, what a great way to go out as a senior.
Nice job by Adam Martin of Chesterton as well.
Way to represent CHS

[dooniexc]

Another former CHS runner, Ali Bishel placed 7th, maybe edged out of qualifying by Pease and Robinson of IU. Ali has been a real trooper. In her four years at BSU, I think she has had six different distance coaches. Her team did not even bother to make the trip all the way across the state - probably saving money for the football guys.

[Trembo3578]

Seems like a pretty good race on the girls side:

1. NOTRE DAME
3 10 15 30 36 (79)(103) = 94
2. OHIO STATE UNIVERSTIY
5 14 21 29 33 (67)(100) = 102
3. UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
2 12 20 26 44 (48) (57) = 104
4. INDIANA UNIVERSITY
4 6 13 35 47 (61) (64) = 105

[RegionCrossFan]

2. OHIO STATE UNIVERSTIY 5 14 21 29 33 (67)(100) = 102
3. UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 2 12 20 26 44 (48) (57) = 104
4. INDIANA UNIVERSITY 4 6 13 35 47 (61) (64) = 105

A lot of heartbreak with those results, wow.

[TheChasePack]

2. OHIO STATE UNIVERSTIY 5 14 21 29 33 (67)(100) = 102
3. UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 2 12 20 26 44 (48) (57) = 104
4. INDIANA UNIVERSITY 4 6 13 35 47 (61) (64) = 105

A lot of heartbreak with those results, wow.

especially since (according to the Kolas calculator anyways) Indiana is the first team out.

[teff]

My guess is Michigan gets at-large spot, therefore Ali to Terre Haute again. Pretty fun to see her in 2nd from before 2k to after 4k.

[Symmonds800]

Way to go Sycamores! Showing who the BEST Cross Country team is in INDIANA!!!! even without their best runner!!!!!

[TheChasePack]

My guess is Michigan gets at-large spot, therefore Ali to Terre Haute again. Pretty fun to see her in 2nd from before 2k to after 4k.

1 460 EMILY MACLEOD MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 20:42.70 5:34
4 295 SARAH PEASE INDIANA UNIVERSITY 21:01.06 5:39
6 298 WENDI ROBINSON INDIANA UNIVERSITY 21:07.07 5:40
7 120 ALISON BISHEL BALL STATE UNIVERSITY 21:07.39 5:40

Unfortunately for Ali, as it stands right now she would need the second individual at-large bid and I just don't see this regional getting both of them. She is an amazing runner and I'm really hoping that she makes it as IU still has a shot at an at-large bid. But right now it isn't looking good for her to move on.

[The_Mentalist]

Eric Schulz from New Albany 6th overall. Congrats to him for moving on individually.

[oldben]

My guess is Michigan gets at-large spot, therefore Ali to Terre Haute again. Pretty fun to see her in 2nd from before 2k to after 4k.

1 460 EMILY MACLEOD MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 20:42.70 5:34
4 295 SARAH PEASE INDIANA UNIVERSITY 21:01.06 5:39
6 298 WENDI ROBINSON INDIANA UNIVERSITY 21:07.07 5:40
7 120 ALISON BISHEL BALL STATE UNIVERSITY 21:07.39 5:40

Unfortunately for Ali, as it stands right now she would need the second individual at-large bid and I just don't see this regional getting both of them. She is an amazing runner and I'm really hoping that she makes it as IU still has a shot at an at-large bid. But right now it isn't looking good for her to move on.

IU got an at large bid so Ali is in the field!

[sub5miler]

4 individuals make it from each region provided that they finished in the top 25 in the race. Guys will be Shulz, Poore, Roeder, Baker.

[Boiler_Up]

Individual Qualifiers from GL Region are:

Andrew Poore Indiana
Eric Schulz Indiana State
Madison Roeder Butler
Andy Baker Butler
Jake Walker Notre Dame
Caden Shields Purdue

[guido]

MMMMMMMMMMM MAD DOG!!!!!!!!!!

[southofindy]

Another former CHS runner, Ali Bishel placed 7th, maybe edged out of qualifying by Pease and Robinson of IU. Ali has been a real trooper. In her four years at BSU, I think she has had six different distance coaches. Her team did not even bother to make the trip all the way across the state - probably saving money for the football guys.

What's the deal with Ball State not taking their complete team? I know that XC is not a sport of emphasis @ BSU but those runners deserve to at least go to the meet. I think that they maybe ran 5 meet overall. At least they were able to field a complete team this year.

[distancefan]

What's the deal with Ball State not taking their complete team? I know that XC is not a sport of emphasis @ BSU but those runners deserve to at least go to the meet. I think that they maybe ran 5 meet overall. At least they were able to field a complete team this year.

I agree. It has to be difficult to get recruits when the team doesn't even participate in their regional meet. Ball State is fortunate to get the caliber of runners they have in Ali Bishel and Sarah Kehe, Chesterton H.S. I have no doubt Ball State could attract a lot of top talent from Indiana and surrounding areas, if they just put a little more emphasis into their program.

[southofindy]

What's the deal with Ball State not taking their complete team? I know that XC is not a sport of emphasis @ BSU but those runners deserve to at least go to the meet. I think that they maybe ran 5 meet overall. At least they were able to field a complete team this year.

I agree. It has to be difficult to get recruits when the team doesn't even participate in their regional meet. Ball State is fortunate to get the caliber of runners they have in Ali Bishel and Sarah Kehe, Chesterton H.S. I have no doubt Ball State could attract a lot of top talent from Indiana and surrounding areas, if they just put a little more emphasis into their program.

Well said. This kind of treatment doesn't go un-noticed. I was @ the DI finals in Terre Haute today and this same subject came up during the women's race. It sounded like them not attending the regional as a team was their punishment for doing so poorly in the MAC. It was also interesting to hear that the so-called "Ball State Inv." was scrambled together at the last second so they could keep their status in the MAC conference. Sounds like they have leadership problems there. With them already dropping their men's program and all of this going on with their women's program, it kinda lets you know what BSU thinks about XC.

[eaglesnest]

Richmond graduate Sara Terashima competed for Oberlin College in the national meet after her team made it.

http://www.goyeo.com/news/2009/11/14/WXC_1114093711.aspx?path=wcross

[OldSteepler]

What's the deal with Ball State not taking their complete team? I know that XC is not a sport of emphasis @ BSU but those runners deserve to at least go to the meet. I think that they maybe ran 5 meet overall. At least they were able to field a complete team this year.

I agree. It has to be difficult to get recruits when the team doesn't even participate in their regional meet. Ball State is fortunate to get the caliber of runners they have in Ali Bishel and Sarah Kehe, Chesterton H.S. I have no doubt Ball State could attract a lot of top talent from Indiana and surrounding areas, if they just put a little more emphasis into their program.

Well said. This kind of treatment doesn't go un-noticed. I was @ the DI finals in Terre Haute today and this same subject came up during the women's race. It sounded like them not attending the regional as a team was their punishment for doing so poorly in the MAC. It was also interesting to hear that the so-called "Ball State Inv." was scrambled together at the last second so they could keep their status in the MAC conference. Sounds like they have leadership problems there. With them already dropping their men's program and all of this going on with their women's program, it kinda lets you know what BSU thinks about XC.

You all hit the nail right on the head. It all starts with Randy Heisler, Director of Track and Field Operations. He was the cross country coach last year. While he is a VERY good throws coach and proved that at Indiana, he knows next to nothing about coaching distance runners, nor does he know to run a program. Apparently, he realized that and let an assistant take over this year.

It's ridiculous for any program not to participate in an NCAA Regional. That sends the wrong message to a lot of people. Most importantly, it sends a message to the runners that all of their time and effort isn't good enough. Kudos to Evansville, IUPUI and IPFW for not selling their kids short. Those three schools may not have the most successful teams, but they used the opportunity at Regionals to run against GREAT competition to see how they stack up. Isn't that how you measure your program?

Punishing a team for not performing well, by not letting them participate in an NCAA Regional is bush league and I feel horrible for the runners and parents associated with that team. Shame on Coach Heisler because he's the head honcho. Knowing his past, it's not hard to believe he would do something like this.