IndianaRunner

[tinkerbell]

All very dominant teams in thier year. If there was a time machince how would this match up play out?

[Running-Dude]

I'd say its a bit too early to be putting NC up there. Just my input

[fastrack1021]

A close one, but I'd give it to Carmel. Although it would be interesting to see the 07 shields and the 09 Futsum going at it. Did Alex Shields run in 07?

[NSalupo]

Figure out the fastest team time between the 3 and the team thats fastest wins.

[no_excuses]

How about Franklin Central in '98?

[Megatron]

Without looking at any results, I would have to say that last years Carmel team was the best of the three. The other two had/have more distinguished frontrunners, but they had the capability to put five runners under 16:00 which not many teams including the other teams can boast.

Like someone else said, It's too eraly to determine since NC '09 has only had one meet however

15:50
16:10
16:13
16:19
16:39

for the first meet is ridiculous. They look like they can get 4 under 16 and maybe even 5. There's still 2 months to go so going down 40 seconds isn't out of the question.

But for now i'll have to give it to Carmel '08

[runner1727]

Shouldn't we wait until after the season to compare these three teams considering North Central has run one meet and the other two had full seasons?

[cptdonnydonowitz]

i think it would be Carmel of 08. Followed closely by fishers of 07. also if anyone else remebers fishers was barely the fastest team in the state that year with laporte running an extremely close second. they could also be thrown in the mix.

[Landy]

Warren of '05 was pretty good and pretty good at this meet too.
15:31
16:18
16:19
16:38
16:46

total time of 81:32 with an average of 16:18

NC '09
15:50
16:10
16:13
16:19
16:39

total time of 81:11 with an average of 16:14

[tinkerbell]

Just some results to think about:

Regional’s (07-08):

'07 Fishers
15:37.4
15:48.5
15:53.8
16:03.8
16:20.9
79:44.4 (15:56.9)

'07 Carmel
15:52.4
15:52.8
15:55.9
16:07.3
16:07.9
79:56.3 (15:59.2)

'08 Carmel
15:39.6
15:45.9
15:47.1
15:53.6
16:00.5
79:06.7 (15:49.3)

’08 North Central
15:02.9
15:58.4
16:06.3
16:07.5
16:41.0
79:56.1 (15:59.2)

’09 Prep Invite:

’09 North Central
15:50.2
16:10.7
16:13.3
16:19.3
16:39.7
81:13.2 (16:14.64)

'09 Carmel
15:56.9
16:23.6
16:29.7
16:40.2
16:47.3
82:17.7 (16:27.5)

[Colin]

i think it would be Carmel of 08. Followed closely by fishers of 07. also if anyone else remebers fishers was barely the fastest team in the state that year with laporte running an extremely close second. they could also be thrown in the mix.

Actually, Carmel had a team extremely close to them at the state meet as well. Carroll only finished ten points back--the same spread between Fishers and LaPorte the year before.

Let's wait a little bit of time before we start comparing this year's North Central squad to past champions. They looked great at Brebeuf, but I think Denny Green would agree with me when I say it's not time to crown them just yet.

[isuxc13]

i agree

[Landy]

The times I posted for Warren 05 were from Brebeuf Invite.
Times for the season were
15:07
15:41
15:52
16:08
16:30

89:18
avg of 15:51

[XC_TRunner93]

No doubt, fishers had the best individual runners and the best team all together. Collegiate athletes: Cale allen, Drew shields, Alex Shields. All of them were all-state all of them competed at national levels and Drew shields is a God. Carmel had a great team and great chemistry. It's a little early for NC they put a show on at Brebeuf, but already giving them the championship? We need to calm down a little bit. They're pack will get broken up once they get to a state-like competition.

[3Nil]

the 2007 LaPorte and 2008 Carroll teams should also be in this mix of discussion if the 2009 North Central team is gonna be played with in this type of discussion

[sub5miler]

If you dont WIN the state meet then you dont get discussed as an all-time-great team. You can go undefeated the entire season, but if you lose at state you are erased as a potential all time great team. None of these meets mean crap, does anyone remember that James Martin sucked all year the past two CC seasons, NO, they just remember that he ran awesome at state. Its the ONLY meet that matters (besides placing high enough in the tournament to make it to state).

P.S. I know that a lot of other meets matter for 99% of runners in the state. I am only referring to teams that hope to be state champion or discussed as potential all time great teams.

[Dumboldman72]

Looking back on the threads someone definately jumped the gun on this one.

[lifesgood]

if only they had bahlebi...and if hse and fishers were still combined

[Colin]

I'm going to guess that a combination of HSE and Fishers this year might not even sneak onto the podium.

[lifesgood]

I'm going to guess that a combination of HSE and Fishers this year might not even sneak onto the podium.

theyd snag probably 4th, maybe 5th

15:55 - Josh Millares - 11 - Fishers - 4A - FlashRock Invite - 9/19 - C
16:02 - Joe Ebling - 12 - Hamilton Southeastern - 4A - Hoosier Crossroads Conference - 10/3 - C
16:04 - Rocky Pollock - 10 - Fishers - 4A - Hoosier Crossroads Conference - 10/3 - C
16:13 - Aaron Pugh - 12 - Fishers - 4A - Harrison (West Lafayette) Invite - 9/5 - C
16:16 - Will Wartenberg - 11 - Hamilton Southeastern - 4A - Hamilton County Meet - 9/1 - C

that looks noblesville-esque to me

[Dumboldman72]

07 Fishers vs. 08 Carmel vs. 09 Columbus North

[tinkerbell]

07 Fishers vs. 08 Carmel vs. 09 Columbus North

As the creator of this thread, my vote is CN 09.